Vidas: Hi guys, this is Vidas.
Ausra: And Ausra. V: Let’s start episode 296 of Secrets of Organ Playing Podcast. This question was sent by Victoria and she writes: “Hi Vidas. I try my best on the church electric Organ as much as I can, but 30 hrs a week no way... Most I work on are hymns since we are a small church. It seems a long way to go for me, even the two part. But your advice is helpful! But I enjoy playing hymns on the Organ at church for practice, can’t do service yet. Hope one day I will be ready...Thanks again for your great work! You and Ausra are blessings! Victoria” V: Remember Victoria, Ausra? A: Yes, I remember. V: She loves to play hymns but she is not ready for service playing yet, right? So it’s probably just early stages of becoming an organist and she just pointing probably to one of our conversations when I was calculating how many repetitions does a beginner need to learn a hymn and few hymns, to be ready for a church service. And I think we came up with thirty hours number. A: I think you came up, because I don’t calculate my practice and I never suggest for other people a certain number of hours they should practice. V: So I did and Victoria said she can’t do thirty hours per week which is a lot. A: I think the thing is and I strongly believe in it that it doesn’t matter how many times you will play throughout the piece. The most important thing is how well you will be concentrated when you will play throughout the piece. If you will have goal for each repetition or not. If it’s just repetition for the sake of repetition then it’s nothing. Stop practicing like this. Your mind must lead you when you are practicing and it you are really tired and you cannot focus and something is bothering you then it will not be a good practice. Sometimes it’s better to practice for fifteen minutes or half an hour but knowing what you are doing, having a goal and reaching this goal, achieving this goal than just practice one hundred times and not knowing what you are doing. V: Well Ausra you are so strict, like a professor. A: Well, even when you are practicing Hanon exercises you still need to have some concentration and some idea of what you are doing. Maybe not so much comparing to practicing repertoire, but still. V: I’m trying to imagine what you would say to me if I was your beginning student. A: Luckily you are not my beginning student. V: (laughs) Lucky for you or for me? For whom? A: I don’t know. You think really that I am strict. V: You are strict, yeah. If you are saying that one hundred times you have to play with one hundred focused mind. A: Well, no, you misunderstood me because what I’m suggesting is that maybe you don’t have to practice one hundred times in a row. V: But I want to practice one hundred times in a row. A: Well, that’s your problem. I’m suggesting that at that moment when you catch up yourself not thinking about what you are doing you need to stop your practicing and maybe take a brake and clear your mind V: I like brake. A: Because the mind needs to lead you on the organ bench, not the fingers, not the feet. V: I like to take frequent brakes. A: Well don’t exaggerate. V: And to take a rest before I’m tired. A: I’m glad you’re not my student. V: (laughs) What if you were my student? Would you like that? A: (laughs) No. No thank you. V: Imagine that. So guys, it’s a funny situation, right? We both would probably run away from the idea of being a student of each other. (laughs) But if we teaching you guys. A: Well you have many great ideas. But maybe not all of them would work on me. V: Would they work on other people? A: Yes, they’d work on other people. As I clearly heard when John played the recital at St. Johns Church but your ideas worked. V: And your ideas also would work on some other people. A: Sure. V: Good. You get to choose which method you prefer. A: Let’s say for example I think it depends on which sort of stage of life you are in terms of your organ playing because I think at the beginning of organ playing you really need to have good instruction of technique, basic technique. Technique modern and early and this what is the most important at the beginning but later on maybe you need to have a teacher that wouldn’t push you so much in the technical stuff and would let your fantasy develop and you will get more freedom. V: Umm-hmm. And you know what, I think every person needs different things too. A: That’s right. V: We had some of the same professors, right? A: That’s right, yes. V: And we both didn’t feel the same about each other, not each other, about each professor, right? A: True. V: For me it was better to study with one professor and for you with another professor although they both taught us together from time to time. A: But you know the interesting thing is after looking back to your past studies you realize that maybe not that you didn’t like but maybe you just didn’t understand at the time. Now you realize that his or her suggestions were the most helpful. V: Who are you talking about. A: Well I better don’t tell names. I think it’s too personal. V: OK. But you’ll tell me later after we stop recording. A: (laughs) I’ll think about it. I’ll think about if I can trust you and you will not be talking about that to all the world. V: OK. This will be our little secret. Everybody is different and everybody needs to find their own way probably and Victoria needs to find what works best for her, how can she advance in hymn playing. A: Yes and so if somebody like Vidas tells you that you need to practice thirty hours a week on that hymn don’t trust it, don’t take his words directly. When anybody tells you anything you still have to put it through your own mind. V: In a way you have to ignore everybody. A: That’s right. You have to take what really works for you, what is helpful for you. V: Only when you ignore everybody you can become yourself. You are yourself always but you can let that out. If you trust too much, some kind of master, we’re not saying that about our self, but if we take great admiration of masters from the past, let’s say Johann Sebastian Bach, and we admire his works, and we almost pray to Bach, right? Then what happens is that we never become our true version of our self because we always try to copy Bach. And remember there was already one Bach. But there needs to be Vidas and Ausra and Victoria and any other person who is listening to this. I think this is important to understand too. A: True. So be always thoughtful about what you are doing. V: Right. And choose maybe a lesser number of hymns to practice per week. You don’t have to go over your head with hymn playing if you are just beginning your organist journey. I think what’s important is sit down on the organ bench every day, as Ausra says practice mindfully and tomorrow be a little bit better, one percent better than today. A: Yes, don’t put yourself into an organ prison. Because if you play too many hours you will probably start hating this instrument after a while and that’s not good. V: Umm-hmm. A: So your practice needs to give you some joy. V: Yes and I think don’t limit yourself with hymn playing at this age. You have to look broadly. Music theory probably too. That will help you learn faster too. Thank you guys, this was Vidas. A: And Ausra. V: Please send us more of your questions, we love helping you grow. And remember when you practice… A: Miracles happen.
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Ausra: And Ausra. V: Let’s start episode 295 of Secrets of Organ Playing Podcast. This question was sent by Anne, and she writes: I started working on Bach Prelude and Fugue in D Major, BWV 532. The opening pedal run is not hard except that I am a short person. The benches I sit and practice on are not adjustable so I have to sit close to the edge of the seat to be able to use the pedal board. In order to do this pedal run using only toes - I have to adjust myself as I go up the scale because my legs are not long enough. Somehow I will have to figure out how to do the adjusting and also have my hands ready to play the opening chords at the end of the run. Should be an interesting few weeks until i get this figured out! V: Ausra, do you have long legs? A: No, I don’t have them. V: So, maybe you could recommend some tricks for Anne, in this case. A: Well, you know, as she mentioned herself, sitting on the edge of the organ bench is one of the things. Another, I think, when you are playing baroque music, you need to get sort of the feeling that you are walking on the pedalboard. V: Walking? A: Yes. It means that you don’t add so much weight on your tush, but more on your hips. V: Mhm. A: I don’t know if it’s any clearer. V: I see. So when you sit on the end of the bench, your legs weigh more, and have more strength, right, to depress the pedals. But you’re meaning something different. A: Well, not so much that your legs have more weight, but that you put your weight of your body on your hips. V: Ok, so maybe Anne can try that, too. A: But, if she would try to play that in a passaggio with the heel, I think she would be in even more trouble. V: Right, because it extends very high… A: Because it’s easier to reach things with your toes, not with your heels on the pedalboard when you have short legs. V: What if she played one octave lower? A: Well, that’s a possibility, too, but I don’t know how good it would sound. But still, you have to reach the low D, which is also the problem. But, you know, the other thing, if the bench is nonadjustable, you cannot regulate its height, maybe you need to put it closer to the keyboards. That’s also a possibility to sort of extend your legs. V: What about to extend your heels like high heels? Use shoes with higher heels? A: And what’s that for? You are playing only using your toes? V: Oh, exactly. That’s a stupid suggestion. A: I know. And of course there are shoes with the platforms, V: Platforms, yes. A: But I wouldn’t want to play with those. V: No. A: Because that way, you would just lose your contact with the feel of the pedalboard at all. So, basically, put your bench closer to the keyboards, and sit on the edge of it, and try to put more weight on your hips, not on your tush. V: And, sometimes, when the organ console is movable, you could actually, underneath the console, put some wooden bricks. A: That’s an easy thing to do, you know, but we are talking just an opposite. V: Not under the bench, but underneath the console, to make the pedals higher. A: Is it possible? V: If it’s movable. Not always, yeah. But… A: I highly doubt it….this possibility… V: I’ve seen people do that. In America. A: Interesting. I have never seen it. V: So, if the bench is not adjustable, you can maybe adjust the organ. A: Yes, but in the future, maybe you would want to select another piece by J. S. Bach, because he wrote so many preludes and fugues where the range in the pedalboard doesn’t go to the extremes. Maybe, it would make your life easier. V: Or maybe it goes to the extreme, but maybe not as fast in a 16th note run! A: And not the opening, right at the beginning. I remember myself playing this D major prelude and fugue. I think it was a disaster. V: At that time, when she plays the opening passaggio, she could hold herself a little bit with her hands on the bench. A: That’s what some organists do. I wouldn’t suggest that, because then you have to jump to the keyboard, and it might be an unsuccessful thing to do, because you have too little time to prepare. V: What about holding your hands on the sides of the keyboard? A: I have seen that, too, but I also wouldn’t suggest it. V: It looks very unnatural. A: Unless it’s completely necessary. V: I had a similar situation in Liepāja a couple of weeks ago, when I played my improvisation recital about David and Goliath, in Latvia, and the fourth manual there is very deep and far away, so when you play the fourth manual and the pedal, you almost are slipping from the bench. Actually slipping! If you are playing with one foot, it’s ok. You can place the another foot someplace forward and make yourself more comfortable, or if you’re playing without the pedals, then it’s ok, but when you are playing from the score and there is music written down in a certain way, you cannot change the music, and I think I suggest not to use the fourth manual and the pedals in that case. But in my case, I was free to adjust my music, so sometimes, when I was slipping, I was just playing with one hand and pedals and adjusting with my other hand touching the bench. A: Fascinating, but now let’s go to Anne’s case. Another thing that she might do and that might work, at least for the opening of this piece, she might sit just a little bit more not in the center, but more on the right side—Just a slight bit. Maybe just a couple inches. And I think that might help, too. V: To reach those two upper notes. A: Sure. Yes. V: C sharp and D. A: That’s right. V: Yes, we hope people can experiment with different bench positions, different body positions, and maybe sometimes, if anything doesn’t work, maybe choose another piece. But, I think Anne will figure it out. What do you think? Based on our feedback…. A: Well, I hope so. V: If she was determined in her letter. A: Do you think it would be a big sin to use heels from time to time in a passaggio like this? V: If it helps, no. I don’t believe in such a sin, you know? Because, everybody is different. The physique is different. Because, as you say, playing with heels is sometimes even more difficult when the bench is not adjustable. Right? Although, we’ll find out. Maybe Anne will write her experience in a few weeks, too. Thanks, guys, this was Vidas, A: And Ausra, V: Please send us more of your questions; we love helping you grow. And remember, when you practice, A: Miracles happen.
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And here is SOPP294: Vidas: Hi guys, this is Vidas. Ausra: And Ausra. V: Let’s start episode 294 of Secrets of Organ Playing Podcast. This question was sent by Andrew and he writes: “Mass for Fathers Day this morning went well. Parts of the Mass were sung to the Glendalough Mass by Liam Lawton. The school's REC (Religious Education Co-Ordinator) is a guitarist. I've rigged up a mixer to feed through the organ's amplifier and speakers. He puts his amplified acoustic guitar through it, plus a couple of microphones for the singers. He leads with rhythmic strumming, and he has a small choir consisting of students from his class who lead the singing quite well. I add judicious, unobtrusive organ support beneath. I create my own organ accompaniment for the mass setting, reading from the choral/keyboard score and blending the parts so that the soprano line of what I'm playing doubles the congregation's melody but I add other bits from the keyboard accompaniment to make it interesting. Playing only the SATB part or only the organ part doesn't work - it has to be an amalgam of the two. Some of the songs come with melody and guitar chords only, but fortunately I learned many, many years ago how to improvise my own accompaniments based only upon this material. In the end it was all OK. I don't choose the songs as that's not my job, but stylistically I can play just about anything that gets thrown at me. One of the songs was handed to me shortly before the Mass - I'd not seen it before, but it was dead easy - mostly based around the chords of C and G, with a D major chord thrown in here and there for good measure. The opening song was a bit of problem - at one point I was playing a G minor chord (as marked on the score) but my colleague was strumming G major!!! Also, he suddenly decided to cut the third verse of the final song and wrap it all up after just 2 verses, but I try to keep my wits about me at all times - I caught this just in time and was able to round it all off smoothly! Just as well I love theatre organ music as those keyboard stylings come in handy for some songs. Now I hope to get back to some of my own work.” V: So Andrew plays organ accompaniments for the choir and also this choir is being led by a guitar as I understand, right? A: Yes. V: This is not an easy job to do for an organist actually, to provide accompaniments sometimes based entirely on the chords, abbreviations of chords. A: Yes, it’s not easy if you don’t know harmony and have no experience but it’s very often the case that church songs come with only one line. V: Umm-hmm. A: And some chords written for a guitar. V: To me I can relate a little bit to this because it’s part of the improvisation tradition. You could play just the chords with or without the pedals and that would be almost fine but not that interesting. But if you for example take a solo stop on the organ and play some melodies over that accompaniment. And remember the choir is singing and guitarist is playing the harmony too then you are sort of creating an additional solo line like a descant with the pedal accompaniment in the bass line too. That would be like a short chorale prelude don’t you think? A: Yes, but I think you could do that if the congregation knew that hymn very well because if you would start doing such a sort of thing with unfamiliar hymn then I think nothing would happen. It would be hard for a congregation to follow you. V: Obviously you are right. The way to do it is to play the bass line with the pedals and with the left hand to take three upper parts in the closed position. So your thumb almost always plays the soprano line in the left hand, maybe one octave lower, I don’t know. And then the right hand plays on the second manual or the solo manual something nice which would suit the harmony and the choir too. But additional, not doubling the voices. You could double the tenor line actually, one octave higher but you could actually improvise additional descant and it sounds nice. A: For myself I am more conservative and when I am accompanying congregation I’d like to do rather do less than more. At least that what works for my character. I remember our last recital together when we played that last motet. V: Umm-hmm, by Hans Leo Hassler "Tibi laus, tibi gloria". A: That’s right and then you were just like a dog, sorry for such a comparison, that got out of his house and then free through the fields. You were adding so many things that it was really hard to follow you. V: What could you. You could also feel like you are off the leash too. A: I felt like that this is the last piece of the recital and that you haven’t started to do it right from the beginning. That somebody still had to hold the rhythm together. V: (laughs) I was so happy that it was the last piece and I got so inspired by my speeches between the pieces that I told the public that we’ll be improvising this interpolation, adding many flourishes and cadences and runs. A: Ha Ha but he forgot to tell this to me before the recital. V: I didn’t forget, I just didn’t think about it. A: No. V: But you were OK about this. A: Yes, I was OK. V: (laughs) But if I told that I was planning to do this like a week ago before the recital it would be distressful for you. A: So when instead of to do from the start, that’s right, during recital. V: To suffer just for three minutes is better than for seven days. A: Well yes, but to make a long story short, I think it’s nice to add things but you need to make it tasteful and to fit the occasion. V: Umm-hmm. Was my improvisation tasteful? A: Well… V: You doubt it. A: I think it suited because it was the last piece of the recital. Then the public sort of forgives anything. V: Thank you. You are very nice. A: You are welcome. V: Should I listen to my recording one more time. A: I don’t know. I would be too scared off to listen to it. V: Interesting. But that’s what happens when you improvise. Sometimes you think you are playing one thing but sometimes your public is hearing another thing. And your partner, in this case Ausra, is listening to the third thing so you have to be aware of your surroundings. A: Yes, that’s right. So basically I would suggest sometimes to make recordings of yourself especially when you create your own accompaniments and to listen to how it sounds from the distance. V: Or after the mass. A: Because maybe everything will be just fine and you will love it but maybe you will get different opinion after listening to yourself from the side. But anyway I think Andrew does a wonderful job. I really respect people who are very creative and very brave actually and wants to try new things and improvise as Vidas or Andrew do. V: What do you mean Vidas? Is that a compliment? A: Yes, it is. V: Wow. Thank you. Guys, today will be my very lucky day. I received my third compliment this morning from Ausra. A: I’m glad you like it. V: How many compliments did I give you today? A: I don’t remember. Maybe none. None yet. V: When we stop this recording we’ll start counting, right? And tomorrow we'll share with you the video of this Florilegium Portense recital that we were talking about earlier. It has this organ intabulation by Hans Leo Hassler and many other fascinating pieces of 17th century. Hope you'll enjoy listening to it. Look forward to it tomorrow. Thank you guys, this was Vidas. A: And Ausra. V: Please send us more of your questions. We love helping you grow and we hope that our answers are either educational for you or inspiring or even entertaining. This was Vidas. A: And Ausra. V: And remember when you practice… A: Miracles happen.
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Vidas: Hi guys, this is Vidas.
Ausra: And Ausra. V: Let’s start episode 293 of Secrets of Organ Playing Podcast. This question was sent by Jeremy, and he writes that he struggles with finding practice time. V: Ausra, do you struggle finding practice time this week when you started teaching? A: Of course! But sometimes, I feel sort of strange, because people might think that we are magicians. And they write to us asking about having more time to practice and we will make more time for them to practice. What do you think? Don’t you feel the same way? V: Well, sometimes just a few words of encouragement can go a long way. But, obviously, deep inside people know that real steps have to be taken by themselves if playing is important to them—important enough. Right? A person, not necessarily Jeremy, but anybody could say that organ playing is important on the surface, and they might have a lot of CDs in their collection, even listen to a lot of YouTube videos of their favorite organ music, they could read a lot of organ related books, they could go to organ related concerts, they could buy even an instrument—used instrument or some kind of electronic organ at home to practice. They would invest everything. But, that doesn’t necessarily mean that that person will sit down on the bench. A: But maybe they need all that other activity just to get inspiration! Don’t you think so? Because sometimes listening to a good recording or going to a concert is worth very much. V: Yes, for example, last week we went to a few concerts of an early music festival, which we also played in last week, too, which is called Banchetto Musicale. We know the organizers, and we absolutely love the kind of music they promote, but it would be, I think, counterproductive to just go that week to all the concerts but never touch the organ ourselves. Don’t you think? A: I know, but it’s funny you are talking about last week when we both played that recital in that festival of the early music, and then you went to Liepāja and performed a solo recital—improvised recital—and basically killed that Liepājas organ! V: Yes, shall I talk a little bit about that? A: Yes, you need to tell everybody about it. V: Ok. Liepāja—the city about 70,000 people living there on the Baltic coast, in the southwestern corner of Latvia, about 100 kilometers from the city I grew up in Klaipėda. So basically, it’s a very nice city on the coast, and it has a wonderful Lutheran Cathedral—Holy Trinity Cathedral—which houses sort of the largest mechanical organ in the world, with 131 stops. Even larger than Sydney town hall organ, because Sydney town hall organ has 127 stops and tubular pneumatic action, not mechanical. So, it’s completely in original condition, and it has all those mechanical devices which you would have in mechanical action organs at the time, from 1885. And, this is such a mammoth, magnificent and gigantic organ, that sometimes you are at a loss, where are your stops! It’s a sea of stops—a sea of handles. Various colors notate various divisions, and you have to get used to that. In my case, I’ve been playing there already the third time there last weekend, so it wasn’t a new experience for me, and in order to prepare for that recital, I simply watched my own videos. On that organ, I made a few demonstrations a few years ago, and I refreshed my memory where the divisions are located. But since I improvised everything, and my theme was David and Goliath, the biblical story, I didn’t need to be very strict with my music, because I was improvising on the spot, and choosing the stops on the spot as well. So, what I did is I practiced on the organ one hour, only one hour before the concert in the morning of Saturday, and in the evening, I played this recital. A: But you’d better tell us about your grand finale! V: Grand finale… yes! I thought that my grand finale should be very joyful and solemn, that David must have killed that giant, Goliath, and I planned to finish on Fortissimo sounds, but, to my surprise, the electricity of the motor or the blower went off, and at that time, luckily, I was playing rather softly, with soft registration, and after a few seconds, the organ sounds stopped. So, it might might mean that I killed the Goliath! David killed Goliath! A: So the organ was like Goliath, yes? And you were like David yourself. V: Yes, one of the interpretations could be that way. And, at first, I was so shocked, I didn’t know what to do! I kept pushing and pulling that organ blower stop with hopes that it will come to life again, and I did this while sitting on the bench for several minutes, and this recital was broadcast down to the pews on the big large screen! Two cameras were filming me from both sides, and people obviously were seeing me work with my hands but didn’t know what I’m doing, because there was no sound at the time. So, when I finally gave up, I stood up, and took a bow, and then they finally started clapping. And then I went downstairs to take a bow again, and that was the end. So, then I asked the local organist what happened, and he said that this happens from time to time with this organ, and he needs to call an organ builder. I was relieved to know that I wasn’t the first one to break this organ! It’s basically, maybe, some contacts. Some wiring was not in the right place, in the right order. A: That’s a fascinating story! I hope it will encourage people to practice, and maybe Jeremy might listen to your talk, will squeeze some practice time in his schedule. V: Do you know why I think people could squeeze some practice into their day, at least 15 minutes? In my case, it’s because for the last two weeks, every day of the week before this Liepāja recital, I went to the church to practice my improvisations, and I even broadcast my improvisations on Facebook Live, that I don’t usually do, and this gave me motivation. Like, I knew my concert is coming up, and if I don’t sit down today, I missed one day, and tomorrow my fingers will be weaker, my creative muscle will atrophy a little bit, and in the long run it will affect my playing. So, I kept motivating myself through this public accountability, through deadline approaching to my recital, and also through broadcasting my live organ videos. I’m not saying, Ausra, that Jeremy should necessarily broadcast himself. He can if he wants to, but having a deadline, that really helps. A: Yes. Pushing yourself forward. V: Do you like deadlines, Ausra? A: No, I don’t like them. But sometimes, they are necessary, as taking your medicine. V: Would you practice less or more if you didn’t have public recitals lined up 5 years from now? A: Probably less. V: Me, too. I remember, there was a time after we returned from the United States studies, and in one half year, six months, I didn’t have planned recitals, and I didn’t practice everyday. I even didn’t touch organ keys for weeks or even months, I think. But now it’s obviously different, because I make those public performances to happen, and I make the time to prepare for them. A: Good for you. V: So you will practice a little today Ausra? A: Yes. V: Even though you’re starting to prepare for your Notre Dame recital, right? A: Which will come in 2 years! V: Will you be inviting myself to come along to help you out with packing and carrying your stuff? A: That’s usually actually I help you with YOUR packing! So... V: So, I’ll stay at home, and you go to Paris! A: No! You can carry my bag! V: Bag, yes! Excellent. But that will happen only in the summer of 2020. A: Yes. V: And you will have to play what kind of pieces? A: Well, Bach, Alain, and Franck… V: Bach E♭ major, right? A: Yes. V: Prelude and Fugue. Alain Second Fantasie? A: Yes. V: And what about Franck? A: The second Chorale B minor. V: Wonderful piece. Not too easy. Thank you guys, this was Vidas, A: And Ausra. V: And please remember to practice today. We also will go to the organ bench and play something. Maybe not too much, after those exhausting days last week, but still, we need to sit down at least for a few moments to play something. This is really helpful, because when you practice, A: Miracles happen.
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Vidas: Hi guys, this is Vidas.
Ausra: And Ausra. V: Let’s start episode 292, of Secrets of Organ Playing Podcast. This question was sent by Ruth. She’s our Total Organist student. And she writes: Ruth: My organ has completely broken down and cannot be repaired. So, I have spent quite a bit of time in looking for another. Through my teacher, I found another which is several hundred miles from here. The owner of it is willing to give it to me, but I need to pay for its transportation here. She had several persons come to examine hers. They have confirmed that it is in excellent condition. So, I feel fortunate. Meanwhile, I have been practicing on the piano. Has this happened to any of you? V: And Jay, who is helping to do transcriptions of those podcast conversations, wrote: Jay: Yes, similar problems. I have (had) an older Rodgers analog organ, that had a problem with contact wires under the keys breaking continually, mostly because of it's age, I think. It was becoming rather expensive to maintain it so I disposed of it, just this week. I was seriously considering putting together a Hauptwerk organ, but I was notified of a little-used digital organ, which is likely much less expensive, and, it has built-in MIDI connectors for Hauptwerk possibilities as well. It is scheduled to be delivered this coming week. One gets used to having a practice organ at home, and I miss it. V: And then Jeremy wrote also, who is on our team too. Jeremy: I don’t have room (or the money) for an organ at home, so I am in contact with three churches and a friend who has an organ in his home. They are all more than welcoming when I ask to come and practice. It would be nice to have an organ at home and not have to plan in my practicing plus travel time. V: So, and then, you see wonderful discussion we have among those three organists in our Total Organist group. A: Yes. V: Sometimes we ask people, at the end of the day, what are they working on, or what are they struggling with, or what their goals are for this week, or some of the inspiring things they have read or noticed that could also inspiring for other students in our group. And they all shared, and we all shared these things and little discussions happen within that group. Don’t you think, Ausra, it also is very motivating for people to see that other people having similar problems or challenges, or dreams, and they’re working together as a group then? A: I think so, yes. I think it’s very important. V: Like a little community. A: Because sometimes when you have a problem, you think that you are the only one who has this problem, but then when you share it, it appears that other people have the same problem as well, or we already find out how to solve it, and they might have the experience, might help solve it for you too. V: Right. Not everybody is involved in this kind of discussion, right? Everybody gets a question like that, ‘What are you working on?’, once in a while, ‘What are you struggling with?’. But some people are maybe more private people, right? They don’t think it’s interesting for them to work together as a group, so, because organists most of the time, they are alone, and some people enjoy being alone, and solving problem on their own. But on the contrary, for others, like maybe Jay, or Ruth, or Jeremy, this case too, they like having those discussions and support themselves too. So that’s how our Total Organist works. We support each other and we grow together. And going back to Ruth’s situation, I guess it’s wonderful that she has found a situation, an organ, even though it’s a few hundred miles from her, but hopefully, she will get that organ shipped to her. A: Yes. Yes, I think it’s possible. V: Do you think it’s worth investing some money into shipping? A: Sure, because if the expert said, it’s a good deal, I think she should do it. V: Uh-huh. And Ruth was curious what kind of digital organ Jay uses. And Jay said it’s a Rodgers 557, so discussion continues about those instruments. So it’s really interesting to see how people solve those problems around the world. And they have similar situations all over. Sometimes people go to church, like Jeremy, and if they’re lucky to get a decent church with decent organ, and organist, local organist would let them in and practice, that’s fantastic too. A: True. And generally its not so common to have organ at home so you don’t have so much trouble and so many problems with receiving organ or moving them around, but I can see sometimes advertisements in the paper or internet that somebody will give, will donate piano. But you have to come and to pick it up for yourself. V: If it’s in the same city, it’s not very far, but it if it’s in another city then it might get a little bit expensive. A: And it’s often the case that people who live in apartment buildings, and lets say if you live, lets say on the tenth floor, and you cannot fit the piano into an elevator, then you have to take it downstairs manually, and it’s heavy job. V: Four, maybe four muscle up and fit men. A: I know. And it’s often the case if you sell your apartment and you have a piano in it, so one of the things is that you discuss with the new owners is that you will sell the apartment but we have to stick with that piano because you are not able to move it. V: Mmm-hmm. Some people treasure their pianos so they travel with pianos everywhere. They go next too. A: I know. And my when my parents sold the summer cottage, they sold the piano together. V: Mmm-hmm. But we have in our current home, piano in addition to organ. Can you tell our friends where this piano comes from? A: Well, it’s called Riga. And Riga is Latvian capital, and actually in the Soviet time we had quite a famous piano factory in Riga. And this, our pride piano, it was all over the Soviet Union, I think. V: Exactly. So basically, we have two instruments at home and we’re quite privileged to use them. And the piano is tuned about one half step lower. A: Yes. Because it was a while since it was properly tuned. V: Mmm-hmm. A: I think that was all the instruments, all the pianos, that if you don’t tune them for a while. V: Right. So hopefully by now, Ruth has found some solutions to ship that instrument to her. But at any rate, I think it’s well worth putting in the money, or investing into shipping that instrument, if somebody is kind enough to donating, especially if its in a good condition, right? It’s a privilege to have an organ at home. A: True. V: Even though sometimes people like to go outside to the studio or the church to practice. Ausra, would you prefer playing in, let’s say, your separate studio if you had one, or here at home? A: Well I enjoy playing at home because it saves me time. Because if I would have to walk somewhere to church or studio, of course I walk to church for recitals, and I really have to practice on a real instrument which I will be performing on. But I wouldn’t do that every day. And since I have organ at home I can practice every day, and it’s very nice. V: And I like to go to church often. It helps me keep my fingers in a condition to be ready to play heavy mechanical organs, which is what we have at church. And it’s nice to be in an old town of Vilnius too, to be in that part of the city while you work at school. A: Yes, but if you would be teaching like 35 hours or 26 hours per week as I do, I don’t think you would have enough energy to walk to church to play every day. V: We can switch you know. I could teach for you, and you could play for me. A: Oh yes; I would love to switch. V: (Laughs) but your students wouldn’t love me. A: Probably not. V: We would talk about internet and blogging and preparing them for the future of their profession. A: We might like that instead of discussing problems related to the parallel fifths and octaves. V: (Laughs). I know. Thank you guys for sending those wonderful questions, for having discussions in our Total Organist Basecamp group. And keep sending your challenges and dreams. We love helping you grow. This was Vidas. A: And Ausra. V: And remember, when you practice,,, A: Miracles happen!
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Vidas: Hi guys, this is Vidas.
Ausra: And Ausra. V: Let’s start episode 291 of Secrets of Organ Playing Podcast. This question was sent by John and he writes: “Lately I've been having trouble with osteoarthritis in my right hand (and to a lesser extent in my left) so my practice has been restricted to work on the pedals. Simple finger-work is basically fine for me, but holding a note(s) while the other fingers move can be quite painful. Being a pianist my pedal playing has always needed attention but it's distressing to have the hands so sore after playing.” V: How long can you play without the pain? “It varies, Vidas, but if the pain gets bad I just give up for the day and let my hands recover. If I start a session with no particular pain I can play for maybe fifteen minutes or so without too much trouble. If the texture is complicated and I'm trying (for example) to hold an inner part while another melody weaves around it that can be troublesome. I think I need to choose repertoire with more care and try to avoid anything that gives me grief. My home practice instrument has a modern keyboard action, so I don't have to deal with tracker action.” V: I think Ausra that John partly answered this question himself. A: Yes and I thought that the best solution for him would be to play trio sonatas. V: Where one hand takes one voice, another hand takes another voice… A: and the pedal has another voice. So that you wouldn’t have to deal with those center voices and to hold them up and to be in pain. If I would be John and I would have problems like this I would first consult a physician because it’s dangerous to practice like this without consulting serious specialist because you might hurt yourself even more. V: Right, sometimes even permanently. A: I know and it’s a serious matter. So if you haven’t done it yet you need to consult your physician. V: Umm-hmm. He might have written about that if he had visited a physician before so maybe it’s pretty important for him to go to the doctor. A: Because I think that some kind of these problems it might be good to exercise but in some cases it might be harmful so you never know what type his problem is unless you consult a serious specialist. V: Umm-hmm. A: But anyway if the piece hurts yourself don’t play it or if it makes your condition worse play another one. V: And play for a shorter amount of time. A: Sure and organ repertoire is so vast that you can choose from so many things that you really don’t have to give yourself such trouble and get that pain. V: Umm-hmm. Maybe work more on the pedal playing because he needs that because since he is a pianist. A: Yes and I myself always struggled with the thick texture because my hands are like cat’s paws and I don’t have strength in them and it’s very hard for me to play big chords. I still cannot avoid playing big chords but I avoid things with big texture where I need to stretch a lot and things like Max Reger. I played it when I had to do it when I was a student but now I’m certainly not making myself to go through that again. V: How is Cesar Franck working for you? A: Well it’s working quite well actually except maybe a couple of pieces. Maybe not so much the beginning of E Major chorale and maybe not Prierre. But with other things I can do pretty fine. V: Because anybody who has seen Franck’s picture and his hands might have noticed that he had enormous span with the palm and his texture very thick and chromatic. Sometimes you make tricks with playing the bass line with the pedals even though it’s written for the hand but in general it’s quite complicated texture. A: Yes it is. And for me for example it’s much easier for me to play playful music, something like Durufle, like Durufle Scherzo or Prelude from Veni Creator Spiritus, the Prelude, Adagio and Variations than let’s say Reger. V: Right. Reger has its own problems most of the time although he wrote trios too. A: Yes, and I played them and I did fine and they didn’t cause trouble for my hands so trio texture is wonderful for me. V: Umm-hmm. And if we go back to John then obviously trio texture would teach him a lot about coordination, right? Remember Johann Sebastian Bach created those trio sonatas for his own son, Wilhem Friedemann. A: Yes, his older son. V: And he was quite a virtuoso. A: True. And let’s see if one hand hurts more then you can practice another hand with the pedal. V: Exactly. And if you wanted to get started easier you can use our score with fingering and pedaling for E Flat Major Trio Sonata which is number one. So guys this is basically our advice for John or for anybody who might suffer wrist pain, hand pain, finger pain sometimes, right? A: Yes and also another suggestion would be keep your hands warm. V: You mean not only warm up before practice but keep gloves. A: Yes I know things like what you put on your wrists. V: It is dense. A: It is dense, yes. Like made from natural wool. It might help to reduce pain. V: That works of course. Heated environment. Keep yourself warm for people who can tolerate. A: Of course, consult your physician before doing any of these things that we have suggested. V: The first thing you have to do is set an appointment with the doctor. A: Sure. V: And then if he or she lets you play then play wisely. Stop before you are feeling the pain, not after it’s too late. But rest while you still feel comfortable even though you might have practiced for as little as 5 minutes. A: And maybe your doctor will suggest you to take some medication too to reduce the pain. V: Yes, well avoiding pain is sometimes tricky especially in later part of life. You don’t always know what to do. For some people exercising more is a good solution but for others not so good. Or exercising certain muscle groups might be problematic. Maybe John can find some kind of exercise routine which is helpful for his own condition but that could only real doctors tell. A: Sure. V: Thanks guys for sending these questions. You see we’re not always qualified to answer them but we could give you some pointers what to do next, where to find some real medical help. And please continue sending your challenges and dreams, what you want to accomplish in organ playing in the next 3 months or 6 months and what is stopping you, right? The challenges, right? And we will try to sort it out and get you unstuck. This was Vidas. A: And Ausra. V: And remember when you practice… A: Miracles happen.
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Vidas: Hi guys, this is Vidas.
Ausra: And Ausra. V: Let’s start episode 290 of Secrets of Organ Playing Podcast. This question was sent by Danielle. She writes: Dear Vidas and Ausra, I was an organ major as an undergraduate but had no background in harmony or scales. So even though I could learn organ literature, play for church services, and accompany choirs on organ, I could never improvise. Because I had no mental shortcuts (ie knowing what key the piece had modulated to, etc) the learning process was extremely arduous, and I stopped playing as soon as I could and switched to choral conducting. The stress of preparing for weekly church services was just too great. Fast forward 25 years, and now I am subbing on organ for Catholic masses, and sometimes cantoring simultaneously! Thanks to some Dalcroze training, I can now entertain the possibility of improvising. But I’m finding it to be more challenging to improvise on organ vs improvising on piano for children’s music classes. So my dreams are to be able to improvise postludes and to be able to re-harmonize the final verse of congregational hymns to add a few juicy twists. I see these goals as interrelated. The three things most holding me back are a lack of understanding of harmony, a lack of handy chord progressions to lean upon, and a lack of an organized approach to tackle these tasks. Thank you so much for your daily emails! They are very encouraging. Danielle in New York V: That’s a lofty goal, right Ausra? A: Yes, it is. V: But well worth pursuing, I would say. A: Yes, especially if you want to learn to improvise, you have to know something about music theory and harmony, of course. V: And I can imagine that if you are limited to just a few chords that you know, and basically playing from sheet music, you get quite frustrated if you can’t really prepare in advance those hymns and preludes on time for church services. And if you’re not good for sight reading, then it’s so challenging that people might quit, and she did, I think, many years ago. A: But it’s that Danielle came back to the organ after so many years. V: Mhm! Maybe she had this inner desire regardless of her limitations, which is nice. So, this desire, this inner motivation will keep her moving forward, even though the practice might not be as pleasant as it seems. A: Yes, and sometimes I think how much my students at school are ungrateful for what they are getting there. Because, they don’t have that understanding of what other people around the world are missing. That is so important for a musician to receive early training in music theory—harmony. V: The reason your kids are not grateful, I think, some of them shouldn’t even be there, right? They’re not planning to be musicians, I think, some of them. Or, they just want to play their instrument and they don’t even realize what kind of life is ahead of them. A: True, but some who later become professional musicians, they feel, I think, grateful for what they learned. V: Mhm A: It’s just too bad that sometimes in our school that theory is so much unrelated to the practice. V: Yeah, those 8 measure exercises are very good, and they’re limited in scope. Each exercise has their own chords and limitations, and the students will know what to put inside of those 8 measures or 2 sentences where the cadence is, right, at the end of four measures and at the end of the 8 measures, too. Sometimes you have an extension, right, maybe 10 or 12 measures, but that’s about it. A: Yes. And now when thinking about Danielle, I think she should learn or take a look at our course of harmony for beginners. V: Mhm, basically to look at the variety of courses we offer under the category of harmony and music theory, as well, because before attempting to learn harmony, you should know chords—basic chords… A: Yes, and of course keys, as Danielle wrote “scales,” I think she probably meant keys… V: Circle of Fifths A: Circle of Fifths V: With all accidentals. A: It’s sort of a cornerstone for music theory. V: So that’s why we created this Basic Chord Workshop, which tackles the main three note or four note chords, and even five note 9th chord as well, at the end, but in closed position. So, if it’s a tonic chord in C major, it would be C-E-G, in three notes, not in soprano, alto, tenor and bass layout, as harmony would be. But that’s another step. After this first course, then, Danielle would be ready to go to “Harmony for Organists Level 1”, I think. A: Yes, and then after that, I think it will be time for her to play some sequences and some cadences and some modulations from my YouTube videos. V: But before that, she would play the same sequences, but in closed position with one hand. Not with two hands, but basically internalize the chords “Basic Chord Workshop,” and that would help her to really get to know those chords, and get to know all the keys through those chords. A: Yes, and of course, in addition to this, then she would master those courses, she would have to analyze some pieces of music that she is playing, or that she has played in the past. And then, she would get a notion how a piece is put together. V: Right! So, basically, pick a favorite piece that you are playing, either right now, or in the past, or maybe in the future you are planning to do, and then look for those chords that you know. At first, maybe, simple chords—Tonic, Subdominant, Dominant—and their inversions—first inversion, second inversion—and once in a while, you will notice them. Not always, but sometimes the keys will be simple enough that you will start noticing those things. A: Yes, and analyze the hymns that you are playing for church. V: Oh, that would be even better. A: And then you could start by doing simple improvisation on a hymn tune, on those chords that are given to you. V: Right. A: Add some figurations. V: So, you don’t need to master an entire course about harmony before starting to improvise, right? A: True! I think it should come together, side by side. V: Yes. If we just think about it for a second, playing sequences is already sort of limited improvisation, right? Because you only have one chord with maybe a resolution, and then you have some rules, how to go about in ascending motion or descending motion, and then you improvise the rest of the sequence, too. This is basically the easiest way, and sort of applying those chords in practice. A: That’s right. V: And then, you can expand a little bit, right? Try to harmonize your hymns, but that’s a little bit later, probably. A: Yes, I think so. V: Or, if you want to do it earlier, you could play with two voices, not with four voices, adding the bass to the soprano line. Would that work? A: Yes, I think so. It should work. V: Okay, so I think we have laid out a plan for you for the next about three months or so, could be longer, but if you practice everyday diligently, after a few weeks, you will start noticing real decent progress, and that will keep you moving! A: Yes. V: Thank you guys for listening, for sending those thoughtful questions. Please continue to do so, we love helping you grow. And remember, when you practice, A: Miracles happen.
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Vidas: Hi guys, this is Vidas.
Ausra: And Ausra. V: Let’s start Episode 289 of Secrets of Organ Playing podcast. This question was sent by Osei. And he wants to become a great organist and a composer, but he struggles with fingering. That’s sort of a short question that he sent. A: But I find it very controversial, don’t you? V: Yes. If you want to become a great composer and organist, I think your challenges should be bigger than fingering. A: I think so, too. Because if you are still struggling with fingering, it means that you are at the very beginning level--don’t you think so? V: Uh-huh, yes. I read it like, if he solved the fingering problem, then he would become a great organist and a composer. Which is obviously...not enough. A: Yes, because I think fingering is only one small part of performance. V: Mhm. What about pedaling, right? A: True. True, and all other things, you know; and if you want to become a composer, you need to know theory very well, too. To be able to analyze pieces. V: Let’s talk a little bit about fingering, right? A: Mhm, mhm. V: How to solve this fingering problem, if he doesn’t use our fingering and pedaling scores. A: Well, when making your own fingering, you need to know what piece you are working on, and the style it is written in--if it’s a Baroque piece, or if it’s a Romantic piece, or if it’s a modern piece. And you finger it accordingly. And we have talked about those basic principles of fingering many times already. V: Mhm. And since Osei wasn’t listening, we can repeat that again, right? So, let’s say, for Baroque fingering, what you must avoid is playing with finger substitutions, glissandos, things like that. Avoid using thumb whenever possible, right? If it’s maybe… A: On the black keys--on the upper keys. V: Yes. If it’s a chromatic music, especially from the 18th century, then avoiding the thumb is not really possible most of the time. I guess using those 3 main fingers--2, 3, and 4--are very important in early music, right? In both hands. What about, let’s say, modern music, or legato style music? A: Well, you can use finger substitution, and glissandos… V: But not always, right? A: Not always. It depends on what the articulation needs. If you have to play legato, then yes--you will use all those techniques. V: If you play frequently scales and arpeggios, you can figure out most of the modern fingering, too, without any glissandos and substitutions. A: True, true. V: But substitutions and glissandos come in handy when you are playing more than one voice in one hand. A: And that very often happens in the 19th century and later music. V: Right. Is it ok to use the same finger in some of the middle voices, when it’s not possible to play legato? A: Well, yes--you have to do that quite often. V: Mhm. Basically you lift up a little bit; and since the audience will still hear the upper voice and the bottom voice, it’s not a big deal. A: Well, actually, sometimes it’s even possible to connect--to play legato--2 notes with your thumb. V: Ah yes. Thumb glissandos, yes. A: That’s right. V: So that’s basically the main principles of playing with the modern music with efficient fingering, right? What about his dream of becoming a great organist and a composer? Can we help him a little bit? What would be the first step? A: Well, of course to practice a lot. V: Sit down on the organ bench as often as he can, maybe every day, right? A: Sure. If you want to become a great organist, you have to practice every day. V: How long--for how long? A: Well, at least 2, or even 3 or 4 hours. V: Let’s say 4 hours. For a great organist, you have to practice for 4 hours. 2 hours in the morning, 2 hours in the afternoon. With breaks, of course; don’t hurt yourself. Don’t hurt your back. And you have to walk around, drink a glass of water, and stretch every 30 min or so. But since Osei has a lofty goal to become a great organist and a composer, I think pushing yourself a little bit more and playing 4 hours a day is doable. A: Yes; and about becoming a composer, too, I think it’s important to understand that composition is probably the highest level of all musical creativity. I would say that improvisation might be a little bit higher… V: Higher, yes, I was going for that. Why higher, Ausra? A: Because then you are composing right on the spot. V: Oh, thank you. You’re sort of developing further the great idea… A: But so, you know, to become a composer, you need to understand music theory, music harmony, musical analysis very well, too; you need to have...to know different musical styles; you have to know a little bit of musical history, too. And then, after studying other composers’ styles, other musical styles, you need to develop your own style. V: Mhm. Does it come naturally or do you have to force yourself? A: Well...I think both ways. For some it might come naturally, but for some I think… V: Do you think Bach...Let’s talk about Bach. Do you think when he was creating music in the 18th century, would he think, “Oh, how can I become original?” A: Well, I think each great composer started by studying other composers’ works. V: Copying them! A: Yes, copying them. Like Bach, for example, when he lived with his brother, at night in secret he would write pieces by Johann Pachelbel. V: Right. And at first his compositions were similar to Pachelbel’s. A: Sure. And then, remember that story when he went on foot throughout Germany to Lübeck listen to Buxtehude and to Reincken in Hamburg. So obviously he was learning from them as well. V: Mhm. And when he was living in those parts, he learned from them, in Nuremberg. A: True. And since you can find all those Italian and French influences in his music (and obviously German influence--various German influences, because Pachelbel lived in once part of Germany where music was so much different from, let’s say, Northern Germany), so he studied all those influences, and you can find all of them in his music. Of course, he sort of remade them: reworked them, recycled them, and used them in his own unique way. And of course, you also need to mention that he knew stile antico very well. V: Which is Renaissance style. A: Which is Renaissance, so obviously he knew works, probably, by such great masters as Palestrina. V: Mhm. A: And di Lasso. V: And let’s say, Frescobaldi. A: True, true. V: Mhm. Yes. You know, you mentioned a great idea, that he combined several ideas into one style--German, Italian, French--and made it his own, this combination that we know as a mature Bach style. As a mature Baroque style, even, right? So, a person like Osei could first copy some music of his favorite composers, study them, get curious about them, analyze them, and maybe create something really similar that these composers did at first. But once he gets better at that--once it becomes boring--he could combine a few elements into one piece, a few stylistic elements into one composition. That’s how we become original, right? Not copying one, but stealing from many composers. A: That’s right. And since Bach lived in the 18th century, and we live in the 21st century, we have much more things to study from, because the music history is already much richer and longer compared to the 18th century. V: Uh-huh, so we have so much material that the old masters didn’t have before. A: That’s right. V: That’s great. And this is such a lofty goal, right? To become a great composer and organist? Do you think that Osei could start composing right away, even if he doesn’t know so much about organ history or music theory, harmony, other composers’ stylistic elements? Could he do that today? A: Well, I wouldn’t do that, if I would be him. V: Why? A: Well...Would you? V: It’s not forbidden to start composing, right? It wouldn’t be great; and he has to, so to say, fail a lot at first, right? And a little bit later, he will find out a few breakthroughs. And that’s okay, right? You have to start small. That’s what I would do. A: Well, you know, the scary thing for me is that there are many many young people nowadays who imagine that they are great composers already. V: Mhm. A: But they cannot themselves either play nor understand music. And I don’t know how they compose. Probably they are just using digital software. V: Mhm. A: To help them to do it. And I wouldn’t want to play a piece written by such a composer. V: Mhm. A: Because in order for me to take a composition of somebody and to play it, I need to respect that composer. V: Mhm. That’s a great idea, because we can compare composing to writing. And there are so many writers who create novels, and a lot of novels are not good. Simply bad writing. So the first rule in writing, probably, is “Write a book you want to read yourself.” Right? If you are not reading that book yourself, if you wouldn’t recommend it to anybody else, that kind of style, then it’s not a good book. So with composition, probably, it’s the same. You have to compose music you want to play yourself. A: True. And in order to do that, you need to be able to play the instrument. V: Mhm. A: And if you are writing for organ, you need to know about it. V: Mhm. So, becoming a great organist and composer--actually, it’s connected, right? It’s two sides of one coin. You cannot become a great organist if you’re not actually creating; and you can’t create well if you’re not playing the instrument, if you’re not, basically, familiar with the vast variety of organ repertoire which came before. Right? So tell, Ausra, your final advice to Osei? A: Well, so just you know, keep going, and keep motivating yourself. V: Mhm. A: And have a little goal for every day… V: Mhm. A: ...Knowing that it will finally lead you to becoming a great organist and composer. V: And my advice would be, probably, start small and have the goal of becoming a bad composer first. Right? Create bad music first, but lots of it; and then little by little, if you create lots, maybe a thousand compositions that are bad, maybe one or two will be good, you know? And then in 20 years, you’ll become a great composer. A: Well, yes, for some composers it was enough to make one excellent piece that they would be remembered for forever. V: Right. So it’s a long life, and hopefully you can create something new every day. And it doesn’t have to be perfect, right? Because perfection is the killer of creativity. Thank you guys, this was Vidas. A: And Ausra. V: Please send us more of your questions; we love helping you grow. And remember, when you practice… A: Miracles happen.
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Vidas: Hi guys, this is Vidas.
Ausra: And Ausra. V: Let’s start episode 288, of Secrets of Organ Playing Podcast. This question was sent by Neil. He writes: Wow—it is so kind of you and Ausra to reply! I'm honored. My biggest challenges over the last six months have been pedal playing (which I basically have not done, except for harmonic pedal-point use) and registration. My wife and I keep looking for suitable organ shoes, but my feet are wide and I don't know what to buy. So far I play in my left sock for pedal-points. Or I'll play Bach's "Jesu, Joy..." with a G pedal point, and then reach down for a low C and D for the cadence back to G (may J.S. not strike me down with a lightning bolt!). But my church only seats about 200, so the pedals don't seem to be necessary. As far as registration, I have a 2 manual Allen electronic organ, and I'm getting pretty good at finding the colors that I want, but I am not able to change colors between verses of hymns, which I would like very much to do. I think you can use the piston-buttons for that, perhaps, but I haven't figured them out yet. You see, I don't have much time at all to practice on the church's organ. I work many different jobs to support my wife and children, mainly as a librarian, and I wish I had a small practice pedal with organ to play at home. I love your phrase "the miracle of practicing"—it's so true! By the way, my grandfather, who's mother was Lithuanian, lived to 103 years old. He loved America, but he used to say "America is a business country, but Poland and Lithuania were religious countries". He was a very devout and forgiving man, and when a Polish priest told him, after the war, that his brother Peter, back in Poland, was shot on the firing squad by the Nazis for being a spy, he just said "You have to forgive them". Makes me weep just to tell that story. Grandpa's name was Hendryk Kapowicz. Great guy. Thanks Vidas! Neil V: Ausra, what are your thoughts about the ending of this question about his grandfather who was Lithuanian, who has Lithuanian heritage? A: Well, that’s really amazing and that the end of his story makes me cry, want to cry. V: Right, because the history is so alive in our country. We still can remember through the ancestors those terrible days. A: And also in Poland too. And our two countries are very closely related historically. So, and Kapowicz, that could be Polish last name, but if you would add ending Kapovicius, it would be Lithuanian, just like yours—Pinkevicius. V: Right. I guess we could start discussing Neil’s situation about pedal playing, right? He’s hesitant to start playing the pedals except for pedal points. Maybe because of lack of shoes? A: Well but, you know since Neil is a man, I don’t think it’s that hard for a man to adjust shoes for the organ. For women usually it’s harder. V: Mmm-hmm. A: But, if you take any classical mans shoes, you could almost play organ with them. V: Or dance shoes. A: Yes. V: Classical dance shoes. So, of course we buy our shoes from OrganMaster shoes, but you could buy them from basically almost any other shoe store that has similar variety of shoes. A: And OrganMaster shoes, they have a variety of wideness of shoes. Not only sizes but you can buy little wide shoes. V: Narrow and wide, you can choose whatever fits your feet. A: That’s right. V: Right. It’s interesting that he plays Bach’s "Jesu Joy of Man’s Desiring" with three notes in the pedal: G, C & D. A: Do you think Bach is happy about that? V: Certainly not very angry because Neil is still alive, and Bach is dead. A: (Laughs). That’s right. V: I don’t think he can punish Neil very much for that. A: Yes. Now, let’s talk a little bit about changing registration between verse of hymns. Do you think it’s very hard if you have pistons? V: Not necessarily very hard, you just have to practice a little bit, maybe five to ten times, changing the desired piston after each verse, and do it sort of rhythmically, right? Basically counting. You hold the last chord, and you mentally figure out where that next button is, and still keep counting. If you need to slow down because it was the end of the verse, and in the same rhythm, when you release, you press the next button, and you’re ready to go to the next verse. A: And Neil said that he has trouble setting the pistons. V: Aha. A: Is it hard to do? To set those combinations? V: On Allen electronic organ, and I guess on most modern electronic organs, and basically even pipe organs, if they have solid state system, it’s kind of just one system to get used to, right? On the lower left side of the first keyboard there is this Set button, and then in the middle of that keyboard there are many combination pistons, right? One, two, three, four, five or more, right? So all you have to do, is to do what, Ausra? A: To press Set, then to press the right piston number. V: While holding that,,, A: While holding that Set button too. V: Mmm-hmm. But you first have to select the desired stops. A: Of course. You select the desired stops, and then you are sure that this is a combination that you needed, you just press Set, and then the right piston number. V: Uh-huh. In the far right hand side of the lower keyboard, there is a Cancel button. If you press the Cancel button, what happens? A: All the stops will disappear. V: Right. A: They will get off. And if you will press the next combination, the next piston, well, you get the next combination. And in that case you will not have to press Cancel button. V: You mean like sequencer? A: Not necessarily. Let’s say your organ has six stops, six pistons buttons, yes? Six combinations. It means that if you will press a second button, yes, that’s all button combination set of the first button will disappear, and it will change to the second combination. V: When you’re playing too. A: Yes. V: But when you’re setting the second combination, do you need to cancel before that or not? A: Yes, of course. Unless you want just to add some stops to the first combination. V: Uh-huh. A: Or do something new, yes. V: Uh-huh. So general idea is if the next combination is rather similar to the previous one, you don’t need to cancel the first one. And if it’s contrasting, rather different, then you cancel and select the stops from scratch. That’s how it’s done on most modern solid state system organs. A: Yes. V: Mmm-hmm. Good. Then Neil writes that he doesn’t have much time to practice on the church’s organ because he has to support his wife and children working as a librarian, right? Do you think, Ausra, if there any moments in librarian’s work, where he could incorporate, at least mental practice, while looking at the score? When the readers are not asking for new books, right? A: Sure, that possible I think, but I don’t know if many people would want to mix their job with something else. V: Mmm-hmm. A: That might not be good. For example, when I teach at school I cannot think about anything else. What about you? V: Uh-huh. I don’t think it would be a big problem for me, because I would bring some, at least one score into work. And if nobody is looking, right, if nobody is looking for me, I am sort of just sitting. And what do I do when I sit? Either I scroll my phone, or search for information online, right, which is also not related to the actual job. What can I do next? I could write, right, a blog post, I could draw a comic strip, whatever, right? Because I’m must waiting. So maybe Neil could incorporate those breaks that he sits. I don’t know if he sits but if he does maybe that would be something to consider. Just mental practice, on the table, while looking at the score. A: Yes, that’s one of the possibilities. V: Mmm-hmm. A: But you know, life is so busy for everybody. That’s usually the practice is the first thing to suffer, because of course you have to do so many other things first. V: And then of course, as a librarian, maybe his job is not only sitting at the desk, waiting for books, but maybe he has to take those books manually. Maybe he as to walk around. A: Plus many librarians, we have to do catalogs all the time, and refresh them, and all other things too. V: Right. So just, I guess maybe, he has to find some other time after work, maybe early in the morning or late at night, when everybody is asleep. A: True. V: Wonderful. So we hope this was useful to you. Please continue sending us those wonderful, thoughtful questions. And we love helping you grow, right Ausra? A: Yes, that’s right. V: Answering your questions is one of our favorite activities in the day, right? A: True. V: So, this was Vidas. A: And Ausra. V: And remember, when you practice,,, A: Miracles happen!
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Vidas: Hi guys, this is Vidas.
Ausra: And Ausra. V: Let’s start episode 287 of Secrets of Organ Playing Podcast. This question was sent by Laurie and also Dianne and they both are our Total Organist students and I’ve asked the question at the end of the week “What are they struggling with recently?” And Laurie answered by writing: My biggest struggle has always been, just do it. If I can get myself to the organ bench - oh, and by the way I have a practice instrument in my home, I can have a good time practicing. But for some reason, it is very difficult to get myself to the bench. And then Dianne added: I often have the same issue. I have a practice organ at home as well, but I am not actively playing organ in any church right now... Our church only has a keyboard (and unfortunately they are happy with that). So I always feel like there are more pressing things for me to do than practice, but there are few things I enjoy more. That’s a nice comment Ausra, right? A: Yes, it is. And really common for I think many people. V: Sitting down on the organ bench is half of the job, right? A: Yes, it is because if you sit down you definitely will play something. V: If you said to yourself “OK, I don’t have an hour, I don’t have half a day to practice, and I even don’t have 30 minutes, maybe 15 minutes I don’t have.” What about just sight-reading one page. What about 2 minutes. Can I sit down on the bench and play for 2 minutes without stopping. And guess what happens. You continue to play more, right? A: True. But for me for example if I want to relax when I’m playing, I usually play music that I know well. V: What would that be? Songs by ABBA? A: (laughs) No, it would be like E flat Major Prelude and Fugue by J.S. Bach. Or, if I don’t have time it would be a chorale by J.S. Bach. V: Performed by ABBA? A: No, performed by me. And if I play piano it would probably be a piece by Johann Brahms or a couple of suites by J. S. Bach. V: You have a few favorites, right? A: Yes, I have a few favorites that make me happy. V: And you would take those favorites to an uninhabited island. A: Or the middle movement of Beethoven’s Pathetic Sonata. I love it. In E Flat Major. V: Well, who wouldn’t. Beethoven is so sweet sometimes, especially his slow movements. A: Well sometimes I play Mozart’s variations in A Major for piano. That’s fun too. V: It seems like you are a fan of gentle and sweet music, right Ausra? A: Well for relaxation, yes. V: Would you recommend to Laurie and Dianne to pick some favorite pieces to play? A: Sure, and maybe after playing that favorite piece you would continue playing something else. Something that you need or want to learn. V: Oh, it’s like giving yourself a reward just for sitting down. Give yourself a musical candy. And then once you have your candy you can eat soup and vegetables and healthy stuff. A: Maybe not such a good idea to eat candy before soup but… V: But you do it. A: Yes. V: Nice. A: Well for example what for me is the most motivating thing to play, to practice even when I’m tired and I don’t have time, and then I just want to lie down and don’t do anything. Like yesterday for example. I had a very stressful and long day… V: Doing what? A: Well I was teaching at school and then in the middle of that I had to go the hospital to get my medicine. V: And what did I do during that time. A: Well you drove me to that hospital. But then later on I had to come back at school with all my medicine and I still had to teach classes and Vidas was waiting for me in the car that time. And then I had to come back home to do all the homely stuff and then I felt so exhausted so I decided to take a walk. So Vidas and I walked in the woods for maybe an hour or an hour and a half and I still felt really exhausted and Vidas told me “Oh don’t practice today.” But I thought I have to practice today because it was Friday and upcoming Tuesday I have a recital. V: How was your blood pressure yesterday? A: It was good. It was low. V: Low. So low is good, for you. A: Yes. V: The reason I suggested you skip practice was that I was worried about your blood pressure jumping up to the sky. A: Well you better worry about your blood pressure. V: Why? A: I don’t know. V: OK. I guess walking in the woods really helped you to relax and get some energy from growing things. A: Yes, but you know to make a long story short what I meant is that if you have an upcoming performance, any kind of performance, church service, recital, hymn festival, it will push you to practice regularly. So you always need to have a goal and to set a date by which you have to learn something and to do something. V: I’m just thinking if people can always get this kind of public accountability like we do. We schedule public performances all the time and we have the motivation to practice this way. A: Both Laurie and Dianne thought that we have home organ so we can make recitals, home recitals for family or friends. V: Right, invite… A: Neighbors. V: Pets. If they have pets their pets could sit around. A: Well home music, home concerts. It’s a good idea. Maybe ask the neighbors. Maybe they have never heard organ playing and maybe they don’t know that you are playing organ. V: What if their level is too low for performing in public. If they feel they are just beginners, what to do then? A: Well anyway if you practice then you will improve. V: And you could perform at your level. You don’t necessarily have to play Beethoven or Vierne but you could play 2-part inventions. You could play hymns. Even if you can’t play 4-part hymns you could play soprano and bass with the hands only and that would sound actually very nice. A: And Dianne wrote that her church has only a keyboard and doesn’t care or getting organ maybe she could look for another church. V: Right. Don’t feel like you have to work there or play there all your life. I you do your art and your art is not appreciated there why bother, right? A: True. V: If the church maybe feels that they have other priorities. Of course they should have other priorities besides organ but organ is also very important integral part of the service. Besides Pastor or Priest, organist is sort of communicator and collaborator on the same level and probably most highly trained professional in the congregation. A: True. V: So yes, go where you would be more appreciated. I’m not sure that she is feeling that way but if that would be the case I would probably slowly start looking elsewhere. A: And when you have organ at home think how lucky you are because there are so many organists that would do anything to have an organ at home and they don’t so you are privileged so take advantage of it. V: And when you don’t have an organ at home, when you have to go out and play someplace else you feel more motivated actually. Like if we go to the gym and we want to work out in the gym we feel more motivated than working out at home, right? Because what, we’re paying for the membership at the gym, right? It’s an investment and other people will be practicing in there in that group too so it is supporting each other. So going out to the church to practice is actually good, healthy. A lot of artists don’t like to work and create at home because of family situations, right? So they kind of set up their studio on the other side of the town maybe. A: Well with many artists in Lithuania I think it’s another reason why we don’t want to work at home. Because at least some of the time artists drank a lot of alcohol and if you have a family you definitely don’t want to do that in front of your kids and your wife. So I think it was their way to escape and be a little bit bohemian. That’s my opinion. V: You are definitely right about that. There’s another side of creating art. Escaping reality. A: But I don’t think many organists have the same problem as artists used to have in those days. V: Right. And because organists are always creating alone and performing alone we’re used to being alone. And artists they get together in groups sometimes, right? They discuss art and not only art. In groups it’s a different feeling. OK, so closing probably advice would be to get some public accountability. Definitely. A: Yes I think this would be the best motivation. V: And even consider modern tools. Technology. What about you can perform at home and you can record yourself at home and publish it online. That would be your motivation. You can even set up a social media channel where your followers would start waiting for your new videos or recordings to come up regularly. You would feel responsible for showing up and practicing, right? A: And if your family and other relations live in another town you could perform for them on Skype. V: Oh, nice, right. A: That’s a possibility. V: That’s a nice way to interact with family. Keep connected. Thank you guys for listening, for sending us your thoughtful questions and feedback. We love helping you grow and remember when you practice… A: Miracles happen.
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